NASA CHALLENGE
An Open Challenge to NASA
FEWW is launching the NASA CHALLENGE
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The Moderators hereby challenges NASA executives to provide the following information:
Show the taxpayers without whose dollars you’d have to go out and work for your money
- In what way(s) have the hundreds of billions of dollars spent by NASA in the past4 decades made the taxpayers home planet, Earth, a sustainable space base?
– - How much more money and how many more years would it take to do all of the things you say you could do on the moon and Mars?
– - How many of the taxpayers would you ever allow to escape to Mars or even the moon?
– - If NASA was to be wound up [or shut down] tomorrow and you were told to do something useful on this planet with the annual bailout money you currently receive, on what would you spend the existing NASA budget?
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- To the Moon! Lunar Missions Successfully Launch
- NASA FY 2010 Budget Request Summary[NASA’s FY2010 budget request is in the amount of $18.686 billion “to advance Earth science, complete the International Space Station, explore the solar system and conduct aeronautics research. The budget request represents an increase of $903.6 million, about 5 percent, above the amount provided NASA in the FY 2009 Omnibus Appropriations Act.”]
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Jim said
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Jim said
[Unsolicited! Comment rejected.]
feww said
The Moderators hereby challenges NASA executives to provide the following information…
See also Editorial Policy.
Moderators have decided to add your details to the blog’s spam list.
msrb said
“And that’s an opinion.”
It’s based on what we know. NASA is required to answer the 4 questions posed by the moderators.
1. In what way(s) have the hundreds of billions …
2. How much more money and how many more years …
3. How many of the taxpayers would …
4. If NASA was to be wound up [or shut down] tomorrow …
While we understand you do not represent NASA, we note that your interest goes beyond the usual “client-attorney” relationship.
Jim said
[Repetitive badgering. Edited]
feww said
If you would like to continue this discussion,
1. Stick to the points
2. Come up with new arguments instead of repeating the old ones
3. Speak for you, NOT for NASA
Consider this:
If your interests in space exploration are legitimate, would you benefit from a space agency run by upfront, honest guys or scheming unscrupulous con artists?
Jim said
Feww: “If you would like to continue this discussion…”
–Perhaps if you drop your blinders and prejudices, you’ll see that I am.
Feww asks:”If your interests in space exploration are legitimate, would you benefit from a space agency run by upfront, honest guys or scheming unscrupulous con artists?”
–Considering I personally know and have worked with Lori Garver, the recently nominated deputy NASA administrator, George Whitesides, advisor to nominated NASA administrator Charlie Bolden and other NASA personnel including current/former astronauts, I’d say they’re upfront, honest and honorable individuals. [uncivil remarks edited.]
Jim said
[Unrelated/badgering. Comment edited.]
terres said
That’s two strikes. Three strikes and you’d be banned from this blog for spamming!
Jim said
Jim asks: “And you are?”
Feww sez: TAXPAYERS!
Guess what? I’m a taxpayer too. So are NASA employees and contractor teams.
[Unrelated material moderated.]
feww said
That’s non sequitur, and a circular argument. Whether or not NASA employees pay taxes, doesn’t affect the argument. Their deceptive use of public funds is a criminal act.
Jim said
Feww complains: “That’s non sequitur, and a circular argument. Whether or not NASA employees pay taxes, doesn’t affect the argument. Their deceptive use of public funds is a criminal act.”
And that’s an opinion.
[Unrelated chatter moderated.]
Jim said
Jim said
EACH YEAR, Americans spend $88.8 billion on tobacco products and $97 billion on alcohol, while $313 billion is spent for treatment of tobacco and alcohol-related medical problems.
$64 billion is spent on illegal drugs; $114.2 billion for health-related care of drug use. $586.5 billion a year is spent on gambling.
Give up the above to help alleviate our problems. Don’t give up the spirit of exploration.
BTW, divide $504 million by U.S. taxpayers. It amounts to one cent per taxpayer per day. Amortized over the 10-year program’s life, the true cost works out to 1/100th of one cent.
feww said
NASA CHALLENGE is not about “giving up the spirit of exploration”; it’s about stopping fraud in the system.
The schemers and scammers at NASA are removing the sense of reality from science and replacing it with Sci-Fi ruse. Their expensive fantasies, acted on with other peoples’ money, are perverting the cause and direction of science, instead of serving all of humanity.
Jim said
I noticed the best reply you could (vaguely) come up with is: “it’s about stopping fraud in the system.”
Let’s talk about that for a second. You ask: “In what way(s) have the hundreds of billions of dollars spent by NASA in the past 4 decades made the taxpayers home planet, Earth, a sustainable space base?”
In what way have the hundreds of billions of dollars spent here on Earth EACH YEAR on Health and Human Services ($700 billion), Medicare ($409 billion) and Medicaid ($215 billion) solved our problems?
$1.324 Trillion EACH Year. Where’s the outrage? Where’s the “Investigations”? Where’s “the Challenge”?
msrb said
It’s outrageous that the country lacks an all inclusive national health service (cf. Great Britain), and that ordinary people are left at the mercy of the pharmaceuticals, effectively blackmailed by Goliaths. It’s not much fun to be declared bankrupt because you couldn’t pay your medical bills.
But the NASA CHALLENGE is about the space ruse; it’s not about the health system. [See God Bless America! at http://msrb.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/god-bless-america/%5D
Further, the gauntlet is thrown at NASA executives. Perhaps you’d let the moderators know your personal interests concerning the issues raised here.
Jim said
Msrb sez: “Further, the gauntlet is thrown at NASA executives. Perhaps you’d let the moderators know your personal interests concerning the issues raised here.”
So. . .you honestly believe NASA civil servants are actually going to pay attention to *you* and your “challenge”? Good luck with that.
I work at a major medical center in northern California and volunteer with one of the leading, nonprofit space advocacy organizations — and realize the connection between space technology and medical technology.
And you are?
BTW — Have you checked with the UK (or Canada) to see how successful their health “services” are?
feww said
“So. . .you honestly believe NASA civil servants are actually going to pay attention to *you* and your ‘challenge’?”
The best we can do is to spread the word. Perhaps the big guns at NASA would start paying attention if they felt their jobs might be on the line.
“And you are?”
TAXPAYERS!
“BTW — Have you checked with the UK (or Canada) to see how successful their health ‘services’ are?”
Figures speak for themselves:
Per capita health expenditure
US: $6,714
OECD average: 2,824
UK: $2,760
Japan $2,474
The life expectancy at birth both in Japan and the UK is higher than the US.
Click to access 38980580.pdf
Jim said
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Jim said
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